glock slide not going into battery with trigger depressed

If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. Hope yours breaks in and the issue clears itself up. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. I guess it's best to keep a couple spare recoil springs for the G26 just in case. Turns out I reinstalled the takedown lever backwards. Have you tried shooting it? UPDATE! JavaScript is disabled. Any . It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. I had a problem with my G23 that did exactly that. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. Have you tried a different firing pin spring? If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. All Rights Reserved. One mag in particular was the worst. By I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. How long are the mounting screws for the RDS? Im a little ahead of you on this path. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? Building a V2 soon. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. All Rights Reserved. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. Kinda weird. Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. It won't load a round. I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. Any update on this? the sig comment was really a non sequitur. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. Your link has been automatically embedded. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. I took the gun apart this morning and the screw that holds the timney sear housing in the Glock housing was loose. Eject it. The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. What ammo? One new winner* is announced every week! I think I had a similar problem once. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. Got the second trigger for the 34.3, dropped in no problem. From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. Let me start by saying that I know I bought the wrong aftermarket slide. I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. It won't load a round. No need to clean, just add lube. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. BrianEnos.com Pasted as rich text. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. I checked and it looks fine. I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. On a defensive weapon, quite acceptable. Then compare frames and see what is different. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. buddy19 LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. Haha.). If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). What does the extractor look like? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 3. make sure the plunger is properly installed, take the side apart and push down on the plunger. Pasted as rich text. How much did you need to take off? Thanks. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. The hit on the primer was a solid hit, dead center on the .45 case that blew out. It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The second came from the Instructor I took the course from. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. Haha). I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. I only shoot factory ammo. Nice pull and crisp break. Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. I've tried three different brand new ones.I can also add that I am 99% sure the problem is in the slide. I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Display as a link instead, Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Looking for help. Nick29 BrianEnos.com Yes i am. Another dumb question is are you intimately familiar with taking the gun part and putting it back together? Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. Haha. I would pull and hold the trigger, rack the slide and it wouldn't return completely to battery until I released some tension on the trigger. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. Its never happened with the factory barrel. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. Oct 20, 2013. What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. check the recoil spring. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. It now passes the recoil spring test. My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Its light but mushy. Upload or insert images from URL. If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. When I say it won't go back into battery I mean when I hand cycle the slide and let it down easy. BrianEnos.com I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. Sorry about that. Powered by Invision Community. Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. The Barbie dolls are mine. Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. JavaScript is disabled. Glad you got it fixed. My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. I will look into it. I have noticed that my G26 spring has been failing the recoil spring test.as of late. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. Any ideas on what the issue might be? I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. Interesting. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. Wondering if you ever got your issues resolved? If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. The tools. I will let everyone know what I find out. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! Did you try having someone else shoot it? AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. I've been running Glock pistols since they came out with the G21 in .45acp over 30 years ago, that's when I sold my Colt 1911 and never looked back. I still want a few more range trips before i start carrying it daily again but it seems we are on the right track. I'm sorry it took me so long to reply, but life got in the way. I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. I've had two other people shoot it to make sure it wasn't a grip issue (one of the people was the class instructor so I hope his grip was good. But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. Its light but mushy. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. I can swap the sli. Maybe he did something to the slide? Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. I don't know what the freaking problem is with my gun not going back into battery. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? While you are on our site, don't forget to check out our Glock Frame Disassembly, Glock Frame Reassembly, Glock Slide Disassembly and Reassembly as well as Glock Field Strip videos to learn more about the Glock pistols. Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. None of my other Glocks do it. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. Powered by Invision Community. I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. If all fails, trade in and buy a Glock 19. With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. no Go on the back plate do not have one.. The problem is when the slide slams forward. Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. I have Timney triggers in two Glock 17 Gen 4 MOS pistols that I run in USPSA CO. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. 17s and a 26 but done here, but the methods should be the same on the 20. Wish I could look at it directly. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I had this with my first gen P80. Would suggest taking the slide off, checking to see the position of the spring. Never had an issue with the factory barrel. I'm going to look in to some of your suggestions and, if all else fails, put another few hundred rounds through it and see if it persists. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rochester-Personal-Defense-LLC/461665857219329, Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. I could measure how it was off. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. While dryfiring; with trigger depressed, when I pull the slide backwards about half way to reset it, the side won't go into battery. I'm hoping that shooting it will solve it. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. Upload or insert images from URL. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. Welcome to Glocks, I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. Pull out a round that chokes the pistol in the manner you are describing. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. I'm pretty sure it actually WAS only fired once before because the copper grease was still very apparent when I field stripped it. Thanks for the info. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Thank you! is your locking block seated correctly? Great info! Im thinking the mag springs are hanging up on something. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. A couple weeks ago I installed a Timney Trigger with the red return spring. Also do you have another 17 handy? Off then complaining of poor acceleration, but they really are more of forced fit change that day... Mag springs are hanging up on something please enable JavaScript in your before! 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