For example, what if one is tired or snores. No, I have never lied on the medical application because I understood the ramifications in the event of an accident. The only truthful answer is yes, most every night. Stan, what is the diagnosis for which you have special issuance? I hid it from the FAA for 12 years They found out I didnt disclose it and revoked ALL my certificates ATP multi-single engine land, Commercial rotorcraft and glider as well as all my flight instructor certificates. If you are currently taking any of these medications or other type of stimulant, expect your Aviation Medical Examiner (AME) to defer your application and ultimately for the FAA to deny your application until the medication is discontinued (and potentially for at least 90 days thereafter). and moved on to checking the no column for the rest of the page. the more you say no the more you are hurting your own self. When learning to fly originally I was not even made aware this nor the NPPL was available. As a result, I had to take an EKG. Yes, all my discussion was only applicable to private, recreational pilots, not airline or large freight liner pilots. Note, denial is different from deferral. waiting for them. Im older now and have some typical late 40s health issues. Regardless of whether or not you would get caught, a better question to ask is why would you try to get away with it? What Are the Chances of Getting Caught Lying on an FAA Medical? You miss the point. If I have a bad cold, or whatever, I will DQ myself for flight, even if such action results in a profound economic penalty for me even though I have a valid First Class Medical. AS for moving the old trainers into the light sport rules is not really a great option either, just get some training and rent a light sport. https://www.oig.dot.gov/sites/default/files/SAFE_PILOT_Testimony_july17.pdf. I can now only fly Sport due to a medical condition that will cause me to fail the third class medical exam if I take it. Regardless of whether they lie or not, the system seems to be working there seem to be very few (if any) crashes or incidents related to pilot incapacitation that they FAA/NTSB can point to a problem that should have come in a medical. Compared to all causes of death, these are infinitesimal numbers. We know that the incidence of major depression in the general population is 10%. I can empathize with that Louis. should also be aware that the FAA now routinely cross-references your VA disability rating when determining your eligibility for a medical certificate. All content is fact-checked before publication. Im sorry to hear that. The FAA medical certification process has at times made me feel that I was in actual hell. The FAA processes close to 400,000 flight physicals every year. Ultimately, a yes response to 18m. Insurance companies now have a way out of paying the claim and if there were passengers or other property damage involved now lawyers get involvedsomething to think about! A trip to the pulmonologist to see if you have sleep apnea and subsequent CPAP will make you lose the ticket for a long time until you have jumped through very lengthy and expensive FAA hoops. Pilot organizations offer free advice to members, commercial outfits offer advice and assistance for a fee and printed resources are available. But what happens when the FAA lies. Here in Italy Superman still dictates. I am not sure whether the doctors are always correct or what specifically they are looking for to justify one pilot is medically fit while another is unfit. Trying to fix an accidental lie on my medical. At worse, you may face a hefty fine or even criminal prosecution. Yeah that is what I have been hearing. Sometimes I think its not necessary for ATC people to have medicals. Im 64 and working on my PP license. In order to understand how likely it is the FAA would catch you lying, it is important to understand how they would catch you. It says "last three years" so there's a one year overlap for us older guys applying for a third class. . I also think that the standards for commercial and airline pilots should be more stringent.. The simple fact is that the FAA generally trusts pilots. What Dickie did was tell on someone for lying. John has been quoted or mentioned in major publications, including Chron, Flying Mag, and National Review. I have patients with heart disease who are able to continue to fly on special issuance. '[T]here is probably some justification for that,' he acknowledged in a 1998 interview, noting that the FAA is 'extremely conservative' when it comes to medical matters. 6 months and 2 weeks earlier I had one done for a Peace Corps application and sent that in, which would have been good for 2 years. Typical government bull-. I for one, not being a medical doctor, place my trust in my AME and my PCP. I do recommend that you do ask your AME any questions regarding your medications and or your medical history and assist in the gathering of medical records relating to what condition you may have and also the same for your arrest/and or correctional history to explain why on the medical form in the explanations page. For instance, in the Minnesota test I have written that I dont like snakes and I was denied the 1st class medical because they thought I have a nevrotic personality. Im OK now, sleep with a CPAP machine. I think that I could make a very compelling argument that, in many cases, the FAA medical actually does more harm than good. If you have not needed counselling for a year or more (maybe less) and are not taking an antidepressant, get a note from your counsellor and take it with you to the appoint with the AME. There are are more decisions that have to be made while driving than flying. Now I am only minutes away from completing my first flight medical form without any worries! Has anyone seen that data? There is so much hearing loss among the older pilot population, but current practices do not do much more than whisper a question when not facing the pilot. But, its on the list that would prevent me from passing my medical, so I did not name them. It was less rigorous than a regular over 40 physical, so I took one of those too. Those that are honest will remain so, and those who arent never will be honest. The next hell will be finding out what conditions they place on that SI. Bicycle accident deaths 700 SO ITS FLY TILL I DIE OR GO TO PRISON. Try walking in my shoes and you will not agree with that statement. The AME can comment on the problem stating that it no longer exists and you are not on medication in the comments section on the 8500-8 and submit it along with the note from your counsellor to the FAA and go ahead and issue your Medical Certificate. A 3rd class medical should not be required for a private pilots license. An attorney that focuses on FAA medical denials may be able to guide you through the process and work with the FAA to achieve certification. Gordon, What a great time you both will have. Avoid Medical Certification Delay. From open heart surgery and stroke to PTSD and diabetes, it is possible to qualify for an FAA medical certificate with more conditions than most pilots suspect. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. Seek help, get punished? I do medicals on two pilots who went on a vigorous diet and lost weight. I hesitated to contact the FAA as I didnt want to deprive this man of his dream to be a pilot but the risk of harm to himself and to others was greater than His Dream so I sent a detailed letter. Perhaps most problematic is that these medications are disqualifying in and of themselves. I told the truth (that I had a very early-stage, very treatable cancer) and had my medical yanked. If successful with testing, you can then make further arguments that you do not have an aeromedically significant medical condition. Instead, they send a letter asking for more information from you and your doctors. You just hit a key to the problem. Yes, they do. I suffer from multiple personality disorder, but all of the voices affirm they are qualified pilots. Its possible that a pilot could fill out a MedXpress form to the best of their knowledge and still leave something off that could be revealed in an investigation. Wouldn't it be nice if, when you opened up Med Expres, all the information that you had included in your last application was there for reference. I wish somebody would have told me that last year when I filled out my first med in 11 years. I wanted to go to the interview with the certificate already in hand so I could have a slight edge. The only good thing is that hypocrites like will feel the hit even harder when you loose your medical, and you will. I can meet Class 1 if I fib. Some of the disqualifying conditions are definitely going to keep someone from getting a medical certificate, but these are illnesses such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. That would translate into 45-50 deaths a year. Find one that will work with you to meet the necessary requirements, but lying is not an option. you disclose something that warrants further information or investigation, or something happens to you like an accident, incident, or disciplinary action which the FAA will then thoroughly investigate. He landed safely, but it was his last flight. On checking this I was advised the costs would be in the region of 600+. Some records reviewer in OKC can not guarantee those in my aircraft a safe journey only I can do that. PERIOD. Before submitting your application, you will be required to review the penalties above, certify that you know the FAA will be scrutinizing your medical history, and authorize the National Driver Register to provide the FAA with a copy of your driving record. No legal issue or problem is too small or too large for The Ison Law Firm. It is also very much a question of freedom. Your AME will review your MedXPress application in detail and conduct a physical exam. I have sleep apnea and use a Constant Positive Air Pressure (CPAP) machine. It can also ensure you keep flying for years to come. Telling the truth has cost me nearly 2 years of no flying due only to a late reply by my doctor and now I am walking away from my favorite form of relaxation, anyone want to buy my plane? Its not lying its letting them find out, which would probably never happen unless something came out about it. In other words, bigger name on the other line. Yes its very rare for someone to have heart attack or neurological brain seizure in flight. Now I prefer Wingwalking. There are about 450-500 deaths per year in ALL of general aviation. I can see a medical for commercial operators, just like Bus drivers, but that is all. Ive seen pilots successfully conquer exams and die days later (in flight). (BTW, I am a member of both.) Yet there is no medical requirement for any of these. Didn't even think about it. Make the FAA do a special issue for every single pilot in the country. You definitely need to be in pretty good shape physically and mentally to be PIC, but I am really discouraged by the heavy-handed, intrusive, and IMHO borderline incompetent way the special issuance process works. Boating accident deaths 750 Oh sure they lie. I am working on my private pilot license and I was honest and admitted to an episode of seasonal depression treated with medication (which I no longer require or take). If you ever need to submit medical records to the FAA, they will review everything you give them. Lesson learned here is that not all Air Physicians are the same when it comes to evaluating pilots. RE: Wiley Post. On the other hand, the FAA medical system is complex, expensive, and difficult to support with data showing lives saved, etc. For pilots with health problems that aren't debilitating but possibly disqualifying, 'fessing up on the application for a third class medical certificate can be a busted-if-you-do, busted-if-you-don't proposition. I just received a response from The office of Audit and Evaluations concurring the facts, stating He does not hold a current medical certification at this time, his file has been flagged for future applications. I flew for 16 years in the Air Force with a known heart murmur that I know would preclude me form a civilian 1st class. What you didnt? Governmental overkill? Its sad. Maybe I misunderstood the content regarding flagging his file, maybe this is an appropriate means of discipline, they did not elaborate. Last summer I went to get my 3rd class med. maybe for some people want or need to lie, I jus cant do that..ur only foolin urself..I wud feel better knowin Im ok,,by bein checked..by doc,least bp anyway..if I dont feel good to drive then I wouldnt feel good to fly either..i know first hand,retired truck driver,been there done that,also their silent killers.pays to be checked by ur own doc..have idea where u stand medically.. get off fried foods n dont smoke is a BIG HELP..when I dont lie I feel better bout it too. These are a few of the most frequently asked questions pilots have concerning the FAA and their medical certificate. FAA doesnt. I hope you realize a world that had perfect safety would be one not worth living in. Im applying for a job where they train you to be a helicopter pilot. Returning home, the Civil Aviation Medical Board cleared me for flying. I know there are very experienced Senior AMEs out there who may have more influence with a phone call to Oklahoma City. This is especially true of hearing. If a question comes up about whether or not a pilot is qualified to hold an FAA medical certificate, the application itself usually does not contain enough information for AMCD to make a truly informed decision. They rely on that trust and the deterrence provided by the severe penalties at their disposal to preserve the integrity of the medical certification process. At worse, you may face a hefty fine or even criminal prosecution. Died of a massive heart attack. Unfortunatley I have seen too many accident reports where the pilot was on prescription medications (found during the toxicological examination)many of them disqulifying, and none of them were reported on the medical application. Yes I can agree even thought I am a pilot right now I do want to work for the airlines one day so I will need a first class which I currently hold. Alternatively, upon 90-days of discontinuation of medication, you can potentially undergo the requested neuropsychological testing prescribed by the FAA. If it makes you feel any better, the doctors office transposed two numbers in the date of the exam. Additionally, I believe this would be a tremendous economic boon for the industry as a whole. thank you, that will be $110. Question 18m. Hmmm Wiley Post was one of the great Aviators flue around the world was he Illeagle??? The FAA will then require more detailed medical information before they can determine if you qualify for a medical certificate. Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you. Someday you might actually have a problem you cannot hide. You said they can search, where do they find that information? Why is it ok for a diabetic to drive without checking glucose but not a pilot? Did you know that most of the articles at Air Facts are written by readers like you? If you you diagnosed with some sort of Learning Disability like ADD,ADHD,OCD,LD it doesnt make a difference. I would have assumed since this person had been flying for awhile, and flying solo that they would have imposed sanctions such as the ones discussed above. He went on to training pilots via simulators. That is an entirely different responsibility that warrants a real physical exam. First class medical exams can cost up to $200. The FAA as a whole believes all people should fly if they desire. If the FAA knew the real medical condition of most pilots, they would loose thier certificates too. see you in the cockpit!! Two of the pilots I know of with these problems have Class 1 Medical Certificates. Whether or not your AME issues your medical certificate, the FAAs Aeromedical Certification Division (AMCD) will review your application. Since I asked to have myself tested for apnea, and found it was a problem, and now use a Constant Positive Air Pressure (CPAP) machine, FAA dogs me annually. So why are private pilots singled out for this rediculous harrassment ? I was shocked I never thought a medical would ever be an issue for me. What you dont want to do is lie. During an FAA medical, a urine test will take place that checks sugars and protein levels. Fly with a friend and share expenses, help a youngster learn to fly and let them fly you around in your plane. Until the rules change, abide by them, and make sure you self monitor. I can understand, in the last 5 years, but most of my things are now 20 years old and I still have to report them-no change. Great guy, but he needlessly put a lot of peoples lives in danger. I do not expect it to change in my life time. 5 years until age 40, then 4 years until age 45, then 3 years until age 50, then 2 years. The FAA gives final denial to only 0.01% of applications. After 7 years and three more third class medicals-the FAA medical office suddenly decided I had 30 days to provide all the records from a condition I had 20 years ago, or have my medical suspended. It doesnt seem to exhibit much intelligence to uselessly act excited after the fact instead of before. AMCD will consider much more than the information you submitted in MedXPress and your AMEs exam findings. However many of the folks you are asking are not quite so anonymous. So why open a can of worms by telling the aviation medical examiner? Thank you for the help. This is why sometimes it becomes necessary to avoid telling the attending physician more than is necessary least the physician spin the whole condition in different light by making a mountain out of a mole hill, thereby destroying the flying career of the pilot for something that even the physician himself or herself is not sure about. The MedXPress application In order to understand how likely it is the FAA would catch you lying, it is important to understand how they would catch you. These blogs are linked to your name/email be truthful but be careful. In the FAA world view you are not telling the truth. Out of those, the number of GA deaths from medical incapacitation is tiny. Now then, back to your question do pilots lie about medical conditions to their AME naaaaaaah! If pilots routinely lie, but its never a safety issue Im old, crazy and hard of hearing bit like most experienced pilots I suppose. The 3rd class medical crosses the line where freedom is unreasonably denied in the pursuit of absolute safety. HIPPA Law prevents them from looking at your medical history without your consent. I agreemost pilots at least fail to mention things. At 60 years of age you do not want to become an airline pilot you just want to be able to go up fly around and come back again. I can only speak from my personal experience as a pilot with a special issuance medical. Do you need a medical to operate a large motor home, car, boat, sand dune buggy, tractor, motorcycle, etc, etc. For airmen, this, like so many other aspects of aviation, is a judgment call'but one that also gets tangled up in personal ethics. When I was active duty Air Force we had a guy pass his medical and they drop from a heart attack the next day while sitting on his couch. See Also: Do Flight Schools Drug Test Students? When that happens, your whole medical history will come under review. After you complete your MedXPress application, you will need to schedule an FAA flight physical with an Aviation Medical Examiner (AME). He did not disclose any of his medical issues to the AME, and passed his medical in 2011. We can never win with you, only lose. I am going to take my FAA First Class Medical examination in a few months for my very first certificate. I have informed my regular doctor to please clear with me anything they might write in my record, as it could affect my FAA medical. There could be a much better system in place that would not compromise safety of small aircraft. Others accept what the agency is trying to do'protect everyone's best interests'and play by its less-than-perfect rules. Cancer is ranked highest for men, With an 11.6 percent chances of getting caught lying on faa medical up to $ 200 self-reporting nature, chance. How do I get my FAA medical records? Meanwhile the FAA now sits on thier collective thumbs deciding what to do. Find one that will help you get through the maze, not simply hand your problem off to the FAA. Skye, you may be a little over the top with your attitude but not by all that much. They came within 2 weeks of revoking my medical. Im not a Senior AME, Ive only been one for a year. Not all applicants with OSA are required to have that test. If your application passes AMCDs scrutiny, the certificate your AME issued will remain valid for a period of time determined by your age and the type of certificate you applied for. Would be drowsy at odd times. The Great Debate: do pilots lie on medicals? I reported controlled hypertension on my questionnaire. Period. Im another one that was originally honest and regrets it. For what do you have special issuance? Why? The FAA has panels of civilian medical experts for each speciality who meet regularly to review the FAA medical regulations and recommend changes based on new research. (And not be able to go to the interview next month with the cert in hand). In our experience, only a small minority of pilots actually try to maliciously conceal significant active medical problems. The big question is, though, whether it matters. Also my flight instructor was telling me that he knew an applicant who lied about his criminal history for shoplifting and two to three months later the FAA found out and pulled his medical currently and he did not hear back for any clearance to fly again so these are great examples why not lie. Did you answer Yes on the question and get you special issue? Telling the truth in MedXPress is clearly the right thing to do, but that is not what this article is about. We are equally desiring of our freedom, but because we are a small group, the bureaucracy can get away with it. I think the medical is about to date as traveling by the hose & buggy. So, easing up on the medical requirements would be based on real world situations. Once everything is done and documented properly,they should issue the medical quickly. How do I get a copy of my FAA written test? We all know that volume of cars on the roads vs. number of planes in the air leads to have to deal with more idiots on the ground. I am working with a private party who specializes in this sort of thing and he cant really give me definitive answers either; just educated opinion and guidance. Due to the self-reporting nature, the chances of getting caught lying on an FAA medical aren't very high. Global misunderstands that Procedure codes, diagnosis codes and pharmacy codes were denied protections under to ACA of 2010. Usually, that period of time is 60 days. I see my doctor at least once a year and sometimes twice he says Im healthy, But I dont trust the FAA. I've known guys who've cheated the system but have never heard of anyone in or close to my circle of pilot frinds who've had any aeromedical violation investigations. As statistics show flying is considerably safer than any land based carrier. My first flightdoctor told me he was very happy about having pilots as clients. Like many organizations, the FAA puts its own authority, power and existence ahead of those, whom it is supposed to serve. I completely agree with you. Have you EVER been dizzy? If he admits it and is taking an approved medication, there are a few extra steps but he will maintain his medical. By the way a friend of mine died 2 hours after acquiring his 2nd class medical. I dont blame poeple for lying. Withholding a medical certificate by the FAA for long periods of time while (somewhat silly in many instances) paperwork is completed does not help with the proficiency issue. Special Issuance hoop jumping is expensive. Jack, petition the FAA to quit demanding the maintenance of wakefulness test. The Aircraft Registration Branch maintains registration records on individual aircraft and serves as a repository for airworthiness documents received from FAA field offices. It's safer to allow people to self-disclose and get help, rather than non-disclosure and possibly flying impaired. I did not disclose my name or address when I created this account. He knew it. Too much information could mean denial of the application and bureaucratic warfare with the FAA. I do not think that there is anybody who does not lie or has not lied at one time or another. The entire aeromedical FAA staff can go kill themselves for all I care. Find a Senior AME in your area, call and ask to speak to the AME about your problem. None of the above activities has any significant medical requirement. Id never put my family in danger and drive a car if I wasnt feeling well, why would anyone think Id fly that way? Wiley Post would have never passed a physical. Have tried the polite calling routine, found they will lie to you, one time the lady told me my SI was approved & mailed 2 days prior, when I finally got it 3 weeks later the post mark date proved they had lied. You can be fined up to $250,000 and jailed for five years for lying to the federal government. The answer is that the population would not tolerate it. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. Such disorders might be genetic. Its only a matter of time. According to Dr. Guillermo J. Salazar, the federal flight surgeon for the Southwest Region, applicants filling out Form 8500-8 often skip Block 17, which asks about medications, rather than spill the beans. Many of the requirements for special issuance for example are redundant and simply bureaucratic paper chases. Aside from that, I think that few pilots lie but, as Huck Finn said of Mark Twain, there was things which he stretched, but mainly he told the truth., See my comment about the unconsciousness question. so.does everyone repeat their whole life medical history.or just the recent stuff since the last medical exam? You get caught lying on a medical, they'll do a lot more than just bust your balls. Its long and complex, but an occasional look at it, especially regarding your own health issues, is worth it. Most women get frequent headaches-about once a month, and heaven forbid but we do go to the doctor and get X-rays and tests once or twice a year. then are able to re-apply. What does NTSB say? George ED King says: Again, take a look at the AME Guide on the FAA website. Anyway I am long through flying now. It's usually the "have you ever" questions. Since my late 30s, I have taken meds to control my blood pressure. 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