Was a local stalking Muriel? I contacted D.S. Adding: Please may I make a comment that the information that I request would be available via computer in an instant. Video, 00:01:28, The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. There were whispers that it was her stepfather that did it, although I believe John Drinkwater was her blood father. You are talking about 74 years ago now and nothing has been able to close the matter.". Paul says: "Muriel had almost made it to the home. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Regards. Great questions! She was singing . Video, 00:01:18Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, One-minute World News. The perpetrator left cigarette stubs, sweet wrappers, and pieces of bread at the scene of the crime, which the authorities have said indicates that he was waiting in the dense woods for his chance to strike. The team are still investigating if this has any relevance to the case and are appealing for anyone with information about it to come forward. You can Google ones in your area or check out Twitter (but I recommend checking their credentials). <p>The school bus dropped Muriel Drinkwater at her usual stop, leaving her to walk the last part of her journey home to the family farm in Penllergaer, West Wales. "(The murder) turned our family upside down and has been talked about through the generations. Casey DeSantis says Ron looked like Tom Cruise in his white Navy uniform when then got married at Disney: Florida's First Family says venue was an 'ironic' choice, Ron DeSantis claims former Disney CEO Bob Chapek privately complained to him about the 'pressure' he was under from woke Left to wade in on Florida's 'Don't say gay' bill. 2023 The True Crime Files. 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Some companies will provide you with upto 6 generations. Jones and his wife Muriel hid a lot of secrets from their daughter and one of these secrets may have been Jones wasnt her father. He stated that I was barking up the wrong tree regarding Harold Jones having killed Muriel and finished by saying Happy Hunting before slamming the phone down on me. Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. Regards. She was buried at St David's Church in Penllergaer. The savage nature of the attack stands out from other rapes. Updated: August 30, 2013 . As part of the investigation forensic evidence has been re-examined and officers have considered theories that convicted murderer Harold Jones was . profiling. Sadly though, this has proved not to be. Her mother was in the kitchen and . The comments below have not been moderated. 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater had only a mile to travel from the South Wales village of Penllergaer to the farm she lived on with her family. Have a great week! taken from Jones one and only child, a daughter. Psychic Diane Lazarus Investigates Muriel Drinkwater Murder - YouTube 0:00 / 21:56 Sign in to confirm your age This video may be inappropriate for some users. The electoral register having been suspended because of the war means details are hazy about where he ended up - although he did eventually resurface in South London under the name Harry Stevens, leading some to believe he was also Jack The Stripper - the serial killer who battered and strangled a number of women across the capital during the 1960s. She goes to grammar school. But Muriel, who was known locally as 'The Little Nightingale' because of her beautiful singing voice, never made it home. The True Crime Files It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. "My grandparents changed completely. And police now hope a stain on Muriel's coat will. But in 2003, when the case was reopened for review, forensics experts had a major breakthrough when they found a semen stain on Muriel's coat. Video, 00:02:36, Up Next. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. After a previous visit to the Drinkwater family farm, Hoyles was surprised when a man in his thirties withthick fluffy hair and wearing brown corduroy trousers and a light brown sports jacket stepped from the bushes at exactly the same location where Muriel was later ambushed. Police believe 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. Just a few thoughts, so we can deduce its a man, not too young to be weaker than Muriel, not to old because they would be frail, so we are saying middle aged man in 1946. They never recovered. Her blue coat, underwear and school uniform had been wrapped in a paper bag and stored. However, a lack of hard evidence would later see him freed. Hi Christine. http://www.tcbmediarights.com/screeners/dark_son.html. It was supposed to have been abandoned in 1944 but I know there were GIs who married Swansea girls still around in 1946. Muriel Drinkwater lived on a farm known at Tyle-Du at Penllergaer and attended Penllergaer Grammar School. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. Jones was ruled out at the beginning of May, 2019. He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head and shot twice while walking home. Mudgee General Cemetery. However, if it wasnt for Victor Penaluna and D.C. Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police I would have been none the wiser about the Muriel Drinkwater murder. "The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. will do what you suggest. Muriel Drinkwater. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. The police think that Hoyles, who as mentioned above passed Muriel on her way home, encountered Muriels killer weeks before her death. [4] In 2019, the DNA was used to rule out notorious Welsh murderer Harold Jones as a suspect. A much loved, very kind and thoughtful person who did great things for people but never expected anything in return. A brother, nephew, grandson. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a known serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. She was beaten, raped and shot twice just yards from her family's isolated farmhouse in 1946. It blighted my life. For Hoyles, and no doubt numerous other people in Penllergaer,every dollar spent bringing Muriels killer one step closer to justice has been a dollar well spent. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='ADDRESS';ftypes[3]='address';fnames[4]='PHONE';ftypes[4]='phone';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Liked it? Request number 772/21. The police have DNA but keep any results they may have a closely guarded secret. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. It was tracked down to a store room, in a current police station, in a very dark corner. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Jones D.N.A was not compared to the D.N.A left on Muriels coat by the killer. He described the search for the clothes that had been taken from the crime scene. Wife of James Anthony Drinkwater and mother to Carole Suzanne, Stephen Mark, Simon Anthony and Russell John Drinkwater. An autopsy later determined that Muriel had been bludgeoned, raped, and shot twice in the chest. He stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name. "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. Would a nephew definitely suffice to prove a link to Harol Jones and the crime scene stain on Muriels coat. Detective Chief Inspector Mark Lewis, head of the Specialist Crime Review Unit said: 'The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. First, I was told that South Wales Police werent obliged to say. ADVERTISEMENT BY ANCESTRY.COM. If you have any information about Muriels murder, please contact the South Wales Policevia email at[emailprotected], Mystery of 1946 murder in woods BBC News article, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. Lets deduce, her killer was obviously male, or were they, unless they had extracted the sperm from another person it is definite that they are a male, so we have a male, s/ that narrows it down. However, the BBC documentary Darklands shown in November 2020 identified Ronald Harries who murdered his aunt and uncle as Muriels killer, and a cousin of Harries was shown in the documentary and was expected to give DNA to prove or disprove the theory.. Video, 00:01:00At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. Over 20,000 men were interviewed about the crime . Sometimes the rumours and suspicion in these unsolved cases does almost as much damage to the community as the crime itself. She said: "He came to public attention in the early 1950s when he was convicted of murdering an older couple. Something went wrong, please try again later. See link to Jones and other murders. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. And four months after Jones left the army Muriel was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea. Or was she just in the wrong place at the wrong time? [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample . Chief Inspector Bethell aptly explains, Re-opening the case is as much about proving who didnt do it, as who did. Remember that Hoyles was suspected of Muriels murder for decades and lived under a cloud suspicion that followed him everywhere he travelled in his small village. [5], Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret (ne Morgans) Drinkwater. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. If the perpetrator was lying in wait as I believe he was, why select that certain spot? I personally think it was someone still in the area from the Second World war. "All historic murder cases, or 'cold cases', are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. Are you able to help please? On July 7, 1946, eleven-year-old Sheila Martin was raped and strangled in woods near her home in Dartford. This seems like a dubious connection because there is roughly 230 miles (370 kilometres) between Dartford and Penllergaer,but on the day of Sheilas murder a large race meeting was held at Brands Hatch with over 9,000 attendees, one of whom could have been both Muriel and Shielas killer. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater 's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. I contacted Detective Superintendent Martyn Lloyd-Evans (now retired) of South Wales Police by phone and had a friendly conversation with him about Victor Penalunas suspicions. Trump rages at Mark Zuckerberg amid claims group linked to Facebook boss gave $2 million to Georgia elections board - and says Dems are 'trying to steal a SECOND election'. "She lost sight of her for a few moments. Her murder became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. Follow. The path she walked home on curved in and out of the woods; her mother saw her walking home along the path and into the woods, but not come out again. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. However, what happened to Jones once he left Wandsworth jail in December 1941, aged 35, remains a mystery. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Hi. Advertisement. [4], More than 3,000 mourners attended Drinkwater's funeral on 2 July. Her mother Margaret watched from the house as the youngest of. My enquiries are now complete and have led me to believe that Harold Jones would have presented a danger to young girls throughout his life All relevant information has now been presented to South Wales Police, Major Crime Review Unit,who are currently in the process of making further inquiries into the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Your work keeps this case alive and I hope it will one day reveal the true identity of Muriels killer. The gun was described as aColt 45 American army issue automatic pistol, first issued for World War I but probably also used in World War II, which significantly had the original wooden stocks next to the grip modernised with perspex.. With the help from a niece of Muriel Drinkwater I pursued my research which led to South Wales Police taking a D.N.A. Video, 00:00:41Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. So with that revelation the re-opened inquiry could have cost 15 million or more as did the Gwent Police inquiry into the disgraced former Abertillery care home owner Dr Dana Pras. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Her route to her familys home Tyle-Du Farmentailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. He must have known she was near home because she waved and if we are saying this was a planned attack he wouldve studied Muriels routine, studied her route, he was near where her route went, that is a very specific route to go in and out the forest, and with balance of probability he therefore must have known Muriel and her family business to cripple the mother to cripple the business. Video, 00:01:00, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret ( ne Morgans) Drinkwater. I agree with the killer being male and the suggested age range. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest daughter of four born to Margaret and John Percival Drinkwater, a smallholder and forestry worker in Swansea, Wales. He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. The new B.B.C. Play it now! Then for 3 years he was registered at Colinette Road Putney as Harry Stevens. Regards. Video, 00:00:36, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. 2023 BBC. Take a second to support Christine on Patreon! Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. To see documentary google Dark Lands Muriel Drinkwater iplayer. If you have any new information I would be extremely interested to hear it! I had informed him that Harold Jones had been living incognito in various West London locations after his release from prison in 1941. Martyn Lloyd-Evans again regarding the letter from D.C.Paul Rogers. Jones killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. In the days and weeks that followed Muriel's murder, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. An amazing campaign by Neil Milkins, but unfortunately, no breakthrough for Muriel. Roll on another 2 months for a denied request. Video, 00:01:00One-minute World News, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. We got a partial profile, given that it was the oldest cold case with a semen stain on it that we had been working on.". Muriel was skipping through the woods on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, as she did every day on her way from school, when the summer's afternoon turned to tragedy. If true, it could have placed him in the area at the time of Muriel's murder. Margaret went out into the yard and her and Muriel exchanged waves. He clearly wasn't very bright, and there's evidence that you see of overkill with Muriel Drinkwater's case as well.". The last person who reported seeing her was Hubert Hoyles, then 13, who passed her on the path returning from her family farm, where he had gone to buy eggs. Unless he bludgeoned first then he raped, this would have caught her by surprise. The team tracked down Harries' cousin Lynn Hughes who described how the only child had been "spoilt" by his parents and was very "childish". Muriel Drinkwater - Swansea, 1946 On 27th June 1946, Margaret Drinkwater was making tea in the family farm house in Penllegaer near Swansea when she looked out of the window to see her daughter . Video, 00:00:36Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Holly Ann Campiglia was a Jane Doe until she was identified in 1992. Joseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. She was shot twice in the chest. Click here to hear the Audio File of this case. I can be contacted at [emailprotected] or via Facebook messenger. I think it was suggested that the police thought that the family knew more than they were letting on. Well here is the TRUTH. I suggest reaching out to a DNA expert and seeing what insight they might be able to provide. More here: https://bit.ly/WoodlawnJaneDoe. Video, 00:02:36Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Muriel N Drinkwater (born Maker) was born on month day 1903, at birth place, to Thomas L Maker and Margaret L Maker (born Baum). She disappeared around the bend into some more dense undergrowth. The unanswered question, however, is whether or not the killer was specifically waiting for Muriel or if any girl or woman who happened by would have made a suitable target. Thank you for listening to this episode of The True Crime Files. Mr Hall, who was intrigued by the unsolved crime, says friends of Muriel remember her as the ``perfect pupil''. Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. profiling cleared Hubert who stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name.). Police confirmed a cold case review on the stain found on Muriel's coat in 1946 had now been tested by forensics teams. Thank you for all your assistance in this matter, the information you have provided has proved to be very helpful. "The farm was a painful place for my grandparents to be," said Martin, who still keeps a little battleship toy that Muriel had given him. A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. In the programme, former Dyfed Powys chief constable Jackie Roberts travelled to met him and he told her how his grandparents (Muriel's parents) had changed after the murder. Video, 00:00:41, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. Him in the United Kingdom knew more than they were letting on coat by the killer male! 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